Possible New Ship Museum on Lake Erie

The city of Erie in Pennsylvania on the east bank of Lake Erie, is considering the creation of a new ship museum using a Cold War era, Oliver Hazard Perry-class guided missile frigate.

The connection is Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry, the 19th century American naval commander, who is a local and national hero for defeating a squadron of six British warships on 10th September 1813, at the Battle of Lake Erie.

During the battle his flagship Lawrence was badly damaged forcing him to transfer his command to the brig Niagara. He took with him his battle flag emblazoned with the words “Don’t give up the ship!” – an inspiring message for Americans, rather like Nelson’s “England expects…”.

The significance of his victory was that the United States gained control of Lake Erie and was able to regain sovereignty over the Ohio and Michigan territories.

Now, the Oliver Hazard Perry Shipyard non-profit organisation behind the project is hoping to create a floating naval museum and has approached the U.S. Navy to donate a de-commissioned Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate. Negotiations are at an early stage but the navy has already selected USS Halyburton (FFG-40) for the role. USS Halyburton was decommissioned in 2014 and is laid up at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard.

Now comes the difficult bit. The US Navy doesn’t give away old ships easily, as Jacksonville, Florida discovered in 2018 after years of negotiation.

The CEO of the Oliver Hazard Perry Shipyard, Joe Pfadt, recently told local news site Go Erie that the Navy has a three-phase application process. They are on Phase 2 which includes engineering plans, an economic impact study and a market analysis – nearly 1,000 pages of documents – before they even move onto Phase 3 (towing & mooring plans)!

Clearly the project is going to take a lot of work, a lot of energy, and a great deal of money. And not everybody in Erie is convinced.

A square rigged sailing ship, the SSV Niagara, sails past a green shoreline. She flies a large Stars & Stripes from her stern.
The Brig Niagara under full sail, off of South Bass Island, Ohio on Lake Erie (Photo: Lance Woodworth CC-BY-2.0)

Erie already has a maritime museum who’s star attraction is a full scale reconstruction of the brig Niagara. SSV Niagara (aka ‘Flagship Niagara’) is a 110 ft (33.7 m) Sailing School Vessel used for events, experiences, and sail training.

Local resident and former president of the Flagship Niagara League, Bill Welsh, wrote to Go Erie in September, arguing that there aren’t enough resources or visitors to sustain two historic warships.

For me, there can never be too many museums ships, but realism has to step in. The going is already tough for this project, and if it finally does go ahead it will take a lot of heroic work and fund-raising to keep the dream alive. Sometimes – I’m thinking here of USS Clamagore at Patriots Point – as tragic as it is to lose a piece of history, there’s nothing sadder than a once proud ship rusting or rotting away. If it doesn’t work out you have to let them go.


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  1. As a former FFG sailor, I’d absolutely LOVE to see this happen. There was talk about it happening at one point in the Washington, DC area and it never panned out, so I’m hoping Erie will come through. I don’t see why this couldn’t work with the Niagara still in place as the only thing better than getting to visit and old Navy ship would be the ability to visit TWO Navy ships! The kids/visitors could see the massive differences and learn about the function of the FFG, and why it was such a great ship. Fast, nimble, light- those ships were outstanding and it was sad to see them decommissioned one by one.
    One thing I can say with 100% certainty: You will never find a crew that is as close to each other as FFG crews. We were all asked to do a lot of work on those ships and it galvanized the relationship between the crew. I was on two FFGs and we keep in touch with each other quite a bit and hold several reunions, and I’ sure we would make Erie a reunion spot if this happened. Fingers crossed!

    Jim Alba / Reply
  2. Thanks Donald 🙂

    Where are you based? You never know.

    Alastair / Reply
  3. Hey Capt If you need an extra hand with that paper work let me know I served as a corpsmen on the USS simpson ffg56. Went back to college and got my mba. If i can help just holler

    Donald Helms / Reply

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